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Old School Esqhttp://www.forum-tvs.ru/i>ndex.php?showtopic=57016&st=50
http://blogs.telegraph.co>.ukandrew_porter/blog/20>0809/09/david_miliband_f>ourletter_abuse_from_russian_f>oreign_minister?com_num=20&com_pg=2
Комментарии благодарных читателей газеты "Дейли Телеграф" к заметке об обложившем юного наркома матом Сергее Лаврове. Такой единогласной осанны Сергею Лаврову, солидарно сопровождаемой скверноматерными посылами юному наркому, я ещё не помню (все комментарии приводятся ниже подряд и без изъятий):
Three cheers for Sergei then?
Hip-Hip...
Lord Elvis of Paisley
September 09, 2008
07:27 PM GMT
Something fun to read. I did like it. The sixth form prefect meets the Rugby player.
When we have so many good diplomats, why do we send the guy in the school blazer (two sizes too small of course).
This lot are just so out of touch with the world.
More like this DT I needed a laugh. Can't you get the transcript!
Count Cash
September 09, 2008
07:30 PM GMT
Sometimes it takes operation Barbarossa to remind the big statists that other big statists are not necessarily their friends.
Captain Badger
September 09, 2008
07:37 PM GMT
I presume the Russian Foreign Minister also made comparisons with Kosovo? (Millibland, you will recall, was one of the first to recognise Kosovo's independence).
Hagar
September 09, 2008
08:07 PM GMT
Intervention from Moribund must be like sending in a four weeks old kitten to break up a dog fight. Britain really should stop trying to police the world when its government cannot even police their own country effectively.
Morris Hickey of Chi...
September 09, 2008
08:37 PM GMT
Thank goodness someone has had the guts to stand up to Milliband's ridiculous posturing, he appears totally ignorant of the complexity of events in Georgia, not content with his pro-Saakashvilli outburst, he then had the temerity to wade in and start stirring things up in the Ukraine where there is plenty of scope for huge amounts of unrest, if not civil war! Mind you Dave Cameron's musings on the matter were equally fatuous and dangerous. What with Iraq etc. one wonders if the FO is really doing its job.
clive
September 09, 2008
09:16 PM GMT
Look at the guy's CV on wikipedia, he's no psycho. Our lad must have really p*ssed him off.
Old School Esq
September 09, 2008
09:17 PM GMT
Well I was just getting ready to be unkind about Milipede ma or is it mi - the answer to a question that nobody asked, but the job seems to have been done already, very effectively!
I am not usually a fan of Russian bluster, but on this occasion would like to proffer a grateful nation's warm regards to Mr Lavrov, and offer him the freedom of the City.
The pesky little insect was overdue a come-uppance - if this is the best Jonah McDoom can find to represent our country, he couldn't find a better way to humiliate us all. He must like that sort of thing.
cyclicrate
September 09, 2008
09:29 PM GMT
Fantastic. Jumped up little Napoleon getting his face chewed off by somebody who doesn't have to put up with being talked down to by his smug, arrogant, form captain persona.
What're you going to do about it Dave? Send the home fleet down to Sebastopol to shell them and teach them a lesson? Or suck it up.
Get used to it Dave. That's what it's going to feel like when you get steamrollered by 30 million voters. Utter humiliation.
Richly deserved.
Good.
Perhaps the Freedom of Information Act could be brought to bear for a transcript.
John
September 09, 2008
09:33 PM GMT
Anyone, who acts against international laws and UN rules (Serbia, Iraq, Kosovo, etc) and pretends like if it did not happen, deserves brushing like this one from Mr Lavrov.
I guess he will not call Mr Lavrov any time soon!
savo
September 09, 2008
09:47 PM GMT
Am I allowed to use the term 'bitchslapped' on the DT forums?
Lord Elvis of Paisley
September 09, 2008
09:55 PM GMT
Sounds like Lavrov has got it about right.
With Brown being Mubgabe's 'tiny dot' where does that place Miliband?
Miliband smirks too much,sneers at political opponents and has dsiplayed virtually no knowledge of foreign affairs.
His unbearable arrogance and his emergence from nowhere is a classic example of the Nulabour political elte at work incestuously serving its own -his pompous self-regard is so misplaced for someone who has so little to say.
Prime Minister? Even the supine British electorate would never vote for this man.
But then again other bloggers have already said it all.
The real humiliation is for Britain -made a laughing stock by this posturing manikin.
Davidjay
September 09, 2008
09:56 PM GMT
But did he know his Dad was a Marxist ubermensch ?
geoffthereff
September 09, 2008
10:16 PM GMT
Mr Lavrov vs Boris should be fun
Jack The R
September 09, 2008
10:34 PM GMT
DOG'S HAIR
My dear Jack, the conversation would never get past the contents of the drinks cabinet.
Same Old Dog
September 09, 2008
10:43 PM GMT
"new aggressive foreign policy"! That's precious. A cynical leak if true - who really knows? - and all part of the grooming of the British public against another bogus threat. Nevertheless, fact or fiction, the story certainly encapsulates the Russian attitude and that of hundreds of millions of us around the world. Congratulations to Sergi Lavrov for having the stomach to even speak to this psychotic NWO deviant son of a democracy-hating bolshevik immigrant. Evidence Of Georgian War Crimes Surfacing: http://www.russiatoday.co>mnews/news/29900 US Needs Georgia To Strike Iran http://www.presstv.ir/det>ail.aspx?id=68383§ionid=351020101 Iran War: How It Will Begin http://www.rense.com/gene>ral83irwar.htm
Rockefeller
September 09, 2008
10:58 PM GMT
Evidence Of Georgian War Crimes Surfacing:
www.russiatoday.com/news/>...
US Needs Georgia To Strike Iran
www.presstv.ir/detail.asp>...
Iran War: How It Will Begin
www.rense.com/general83/i>...
Rockefeller
September 09, 2008
11:26 PM GMT
Miliband does not need abuse from others he appears quite capable of abusing himself.
Al Hamilton
September 10, 2008
01:22 AM GMT
Fascinating indeed as it shows Mr Lavrov committing the entirely unprofessional mistake of failing to do his homework. With grandfather who had escaped from Warsaw, where he lived, in order to volunteer for the Red Army as it prepared to capture the city, David Miliband is certainly the last person in Britain who can be accused of ignorance of Russia's history.
ealdon
September 10, 2008
01:43 AM GMT
To volunteer for the Red Army? Maybe you should do your homework.
"When the Germans overran Belgium in May 1940, Samuel and Ralph fled because they were Jews. They were given refuge in Britain. Ralph stayed and later became an influential Marxist academic and close friends with Tony Benn and other Labour grandees until his death in 1994."
www.timesonline.co.uk/tol>...
"Who are you to f------ lecture me?"
Good questions, answers?
DominicJ
September 10, 2008
09:09 AM GMT
Milliband just can't understand what has got the Russians so tetchy, Kosovo, Now a Missile shield on their border, reducing the effectiveness of their deterrent, whilst being encircled on the other side by US bases.
Milliband you are an Idiot, I can see why the Russians are annoyed, I agree with them, this is deliberate Provocation.
Milliband, you have proved yourself a Danger to International Relations and Peace and therefore Peace divident Prosperity ( in Ploughshares ) etc.
Kosovo, Serbia, Iraq Afghanistan, and these Commie Marxists and Zionists go on and on about the evils of Nationalism.
Note to self, I must investigate the real cause of WWII sometime.
Milliband, You're fired.
BritishPatriot
September 10, 2008
10:18 AM GMT
Thank you, my dear Moncrief for an opportunity to enhance your education. To make up for the homework you neglected here it is: "Both paternal grandparents lived in the Jewish quarter of Warsaw, before his grandfather, Samuel Miliband, joined the Red Army in the Polish-Soviet War, and after the war moved to Belgium. Hitler’s invasion of Belgium in May 1940... split the Miliband family in half: Ralph and father Samuel fled to England, while Ralph's mother Rene and baby sister Nan stayed behind for the duration of the war. They were not reunited until 1950" - tinyurl.com/58n3vr
Keep reading The Times, please. On 6 April 2008 it published an article under the title: "David Miliband’s family ‘lied’ to enter UK". It starts: "The family of David Miliband, the foreign secretary, was branded untrustworthy and misleading by Home Office and Foreign Office officials when it tried to migrate to Britain... The government papers accuse Miliband’s late grandfather, Samuel, a Polish migrant, of exaggerating the antisemitism he faced in Belgium after the second world war in order to move to Britain". The autor of the article is Brendan Montague.
tinyurl.com/6k3vw4
ealdon
September 10, 2008
11:25 AM GMT
Isn't it time these perpetual students were turfed out of government?
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Mrs Trellis
September 10, 2008
11:30 AM GMT
Ealdon: Does that mean that Milband's grandfather was a Polish Red Army soldier who was required along with the whole army to watch and wait outside the city while the Wermacht exterminated the Polish resistance's Warsaw uprising and levelled the city so that Stalin, (the Georgian), could blame the Germans for the massacre and not have the trouble of doing the job himself?
Clearly no stranger to divided loyalties and political 'accommodation'!
Good training for 'back stabbing'?
Davidjay
September 10, 2008
01:31 PM GMT
To DavidJay: It was another war - the 1920 war between Russia and Poland, where despite unsolicited support on the part of Mr Samuel Miliband, the Red Army's offensive collapsed on the outskirts of Warsaw. orloon.info "Divided loyalties"? I think it's one of the most diplomatic ways to describe it as Mr Miliband was a Polish national and inhabitant of Warsaw. Think of a Londoner who would have joined the Wehrmacht as it approached Dunkirk in May 1940.
ealdon
September 10, 2008
02:39 PM GMT
So we have the son of a traitor to his country running our foreign policy? A "man" whose family loyalty is was to one of the biggest threats to our freedom? This is called "joined up Government?"
Al Hamilton
September 10, 2008
10:33 PM GMT
It seems rather strange to me that polish red army soldier choose to be an immigrant in what you call today democratic belgium, not in the USSR. And what excactly it has to do with Caucasus history. Russia have not invaded Poland. yet.
denis
September 11, 2008
01:16 AM GMT
Denis
Not yet? Three times in the last hundred years!
Al Hamilton
September 11, 2008
01:32 AM GMT
An old (Soviet) anecdote told about a practical study in the Soviet Diplomatic Academy when the professor explaines that the Note of the Soviet Government addressed to some Western country should not content the word "a***ole" more than 5 times but the word "F**k" must be used not less that twice.
Those days we laughed thinking this joke perfectly expessed the SPIRIT of Russian diplomacy. Who could imagine it expressed its REALITY?
Igor
September 11, 2008
02:25 AM GMT
Who the f**k are the United States at all to lecture other countries? A country with a 200-year history has a blazing cheek to lecture countries that have more that thousand years of history? This is not even funny already.
Lavrov (in case he really has done that and it is not just a joke) is really great. Just carry on! 
alexunder
September 11, 2008
07:25 AM GMT
I can't believe he really did it.
Some of foreign politicians must know russian saying: you see a speck in the white of somebody's eye, but you don't notice a tree in your own.
Anya
September 11, 2008
10:01 AM GMT
Al Hamilton
Piece of advice. Next time before you call an action invasion, try to get some solid knowledge on the subject. The easiest way would be to have a look on the appropriate historical map. 13-14th century in this case.
denis
September 11, 2008
04:33 PM GMT
Perfect, absolutelly perfect way to shift the focus from discussed problems to the "shocking F word" issue, so shocking, that we'll never see "a readable note of the conversation."
Would love to read it! Sure. There must be really something important and interesting in it.
I really did like comments!
================
P.S. I am not sure - F stands for "Fool"?
Yuri
September 12, 2008
02:09 PM GMT
I would to apologize for Russia Foreign Affairs minister. I feel ashamed that Russia is presented by such minister. Alexander (Russian Federation)
Alexander
September 12, 2008
03:43 PM GMT
rude indeed, yet precisely to the point. The same, BTW, applies to the arrogant, hypocritical, hawkish US politicians of today.
rollingstone
September 12, 2008
04:52 PM GMT
I thought that telephone conversations between foreign ministers are supposed to be private.
Anyway, if the story is true, I think that Mr. Miliband deserves the criticism. I feel no shame for the foreign minister of my nation. The so called 'West' has done so much wrong there are no words harsh enough to express it.
In the words of a russian saying: 'And these are the people that tell me not to pick my nose ?!!'
Mike
September 12, 2008
06:14 PM GMT
to Alexander
Prezhde chem "izviniatsia" za ludei, kotorie gorazdo umnee i opitnee vas, hotia bi potrudites pravilno pisat po-angliski.
to all
As Alexander, I am from Russia. Many Russians speak English much better than he does, and at the same time do not make a fool of themselves by apologizing for people incomparably more experienced in international affairs than they are.
The f words were of course an unfortunate slip of the tongue of an experienced diplomat tired of explaining the same thing over and over again to people who are not there to listen but to lecture.
I was pleasantly surprised that all readers who posted comments here saw the true reasons behind this yet another attempt to cover up the lack of will for dialogue by showing that all Russians are savages.
I am glad that there are independent thinking people in the UK who withstand fierce propaganda.
Andrey
September 12, 2008
06:58 PM GMT
I met a whole bunch of students from the UK while i was studying in CA, US. I had never been to Britain before that, so i had some stereotypes about their country...Man, i was so pleasantly surprised when i learnt those guys who turned out to be the kindest, nicest and most outgoing people I've ever seen in my life so far. Now I cannot reconcile my experience of dealing with the British people with what I hear from their country's officials. I'm not going to justify Lavrov's rudeness (though i really doubt he spoke like that on the phone), but Milliband as well as other Western politicians' comments piss off even me, a person who mostly stays out of politics. I pesonally don't understand how a nation like Britain with educated people and rich culture elects politicians like Milliband...
Alex
September 12, 2008
07:13 PM GMT
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